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For those who like 1:1 scale ... My Cobra is getting a major upgrade.
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May 20th and still no book here.
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The display case finally arrived. It's very good quality and assembles easily.
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On 3/13/2022 at 6:21 PM, AgoraSam said:
The book ships this week and next week to all countries 🙂
Today is April 10th and still no book delivered to me in the U.S. Has anyone else received it yet? I'm also still waiting for the display case, but it may actually be on its way. I have a FedEx shipment coming from Pompano Beach, FL that could be it, but no communication about the shipment from Agora.
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Recommended change to help get better fit on the side pipes. Instead of having the side pipes use protrusions to fit into the headers, reverse that. In this way, the pipes could be sanded/filed down by the builder to shorten the length where they connect to the headers to allow for a more accurate fit that is more parallel to the body.
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On 2/26/2021 at 9:36 AM, Pierre said:
promised thing; due!
l'arrière
l'avant
détail
I like the red spring detail. It looks really good.
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I see the issue of the front shock piston coming out of the cylinder has been discussed a couple of times. I assume this problem is resolved with later assembly, but for the near-term, I just used some zip ties to keep things in place.
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On 6/28/2021 at 6:59 AM, Joep said:Here is another picture, but It maybe a replica
This example is from Backdraft Racing, which makes some very nice modern replicas. They are typically build-to-order based on each customer's specifications.
I'm a member of the Mile Hi Cobra Club in Colorado, and we have representation from many manufacturers including Superformance, Backdraft, Shell Valley, Factory Five, and more.
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Thanks, and I'll let it go as well. Have a great day.
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22 hours ago, ThomasJW said:My two cents on this. It seems to me the roll bar mounted harness is a modern alteration/hack after-thought to the original design which had the mounting points on the rear bulkhead... or did it? How recent are shoulder harnesses anyway? In any event, It baffles me why you would want to mount something so integral on a chromed part and destroy its esthetic.
To address your question about rear bulkhead mounting, The bulkhead is a sheet of aluminum, which isn't strong enough for attaching safety belts to. I've seen at least one "original" Cobra (CSX-3010) where the belts attached to a cross bar on the roll bar that is positioned lower (below the body). Most modern replicas run the belts to frame-mounted tabs. The shoulder belts pass through the bulkhead, over a support bar and then to a chassis mounted attachment point. The lap belts attach to similar tabs on either side of the seat, and for 5-point harnesses, there is a mount point through a steel plate on the floor under the seat.
I would imagine most of the original S/C cars were configured with lap belts only as racing harnesses are not great for street-driven cars and safety was not as much of a focus when the originals were built.
The attached picture shows my passenger shoulder belt attachments as viewed from inside the trunk. You can see where they come through the bulkhead, over a frame bar, and down to the chassis-mounted tabs. The second picture gives you a great view of the setup without the body in the way.
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There were only 31 "original" Shelby Cobra 427 S/C cars produced. The originals are the cars carrying the CSX-3xxx serial numbers. There were an additional 19 full competition cars produced and 260 street cars. The street versions had either a 427 or 428 engine, no roll bar, no side pipes, and were intended to be the production Cobra. What most people don't realize is that Shelby American still produces Cobras today as what are known as "continuation" series cars. They are also CSX serial numbered cars, but in the 6000 series. They also produced a run of CSX-1xxx cars a few decades ago. Other CSX cars are produced by Superformance, which is a licensed manufacturer in South Africa that produces CSX-4xxx, CSX-7xxx, and CSX-8xxx serial numbered cars. Our beloved model is likely based on the current CSX-6xxx series from Shelby American. The CSX-6xxx cars are made-to-order and some are made with the roll bar harness mounts. Again, no two Cobras are exactly alike, and the vast majority are replicas of the original 31 cars produced.
427 Cobra (CSX6000) (shelby.com)
1965 Shelby Cobra 427 Roadster: History, Specifications, & Performance (supercars.net)
If Carroll himself was okay with it, we should be, too.
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I know my car isn't an original or built to approximate an original, but I thought some building the Cobra model would like to see a complete build from start to finish of a real car.
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Here are the belts in my full scale car for reference.
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On 6/21/2021 at 4:01 AM, mr_frog said:I've scoured the interweb and NOWHERE can I find a picture of a Cobra with the drivers side seatbelts mounted in the way according to Agora's instructions.
Even the picture at the beginning of the instructions has them mounted 'conventionally'.
What Agora has produced is a rather 'Heath-Robinson' effort which does the simple lines of the Cobra no favours WHATSOEVER.
It does not seem in-keeping with a company trying to produce a realistic detailed replica (morelike a mistake which is being 'fixed' as cheaply as possible).
I, for one, will not be fitting this hideous eyesore onto my model.
I eagerly await Agora's take on this matter.
It's actually pretty common to mount the harness to the roll bar since it puts the attachment points above the shoulders instead of below them, which can cause injuries.
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If Agora chose to accurately replicate the Guardsman Blue from the original Cobras, then this information from my painter may help.
"Guardsman Blue is Ford #1622-A. The OEM code is F, also D-F. I use all PPG products and their number is 12832. If you go with PPG I really suggest that you use the Deltron line which produces a richer color in this formula."
This product may be a good match:
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11 hours ago, Philippe said:
Bonjour et bienvenue, j'en suis au kit 10 et c'est vraiment génial, une superbe réalisation de AGORA, plus que 2 mois et je pourrais enfin l'admirait sur mon étagère. L'équipe AGORA est super, Sophie pour la France est remarquable. Amuse toi bien
Philippe
Cannes FRANCE
Merci. J'ai terminé le pack #1 (étapes 1-6). Aucun problème pour l'instant et la qualité des pièces semble très bonne. Dommage que les tuyaux latéraux soient en plastique. Le métal donnerait vraiment un aspect et une sensation substantiels.
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I just assembled my first wheel and tire. I was concerned about the white letters after reading this thread, so here is how I approached it. First, I heated the water to just shy of boiling. I transfered the water to a different pan and placed the tire in the water. I did this to prevent the tire from contacting the hot pan. At two minutes, I removed the tire and with the lettering facing away from me, I worked the wheel into the tire while avoiding contact with the letters. It worked perfectly with no damage to the letters.
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Hello fellow builders. I just received Pack 1 of the Cobra 427 and I'm excited to get this build going. I've always had a passion for modeling and started as a young boy. The most complex model I've done was a Revell model of the U.S.S. Constitution with full rigging and sails back in the mid 1980s. I donated it to a military unit when it was time for me to return to the US since I knew it wouldn't survive the move. The 1965 Shelby Cobra is near and dear to my heart, and I've recently completed a full-scale replica from Factory Five Racing.
When do I get the book?
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I appreciate the kind offer. I'll reach out to Agora again and see if they can get the one they were supposed to send me on it's way.